What is or is not Happening in Politics but should or shouldn't be happening?

[momentomoir]

Heres my opinion on the rich poor and middle class
take into consideration first my family is rich as in my grandpa died a mulit billionaire rich
my imedate family is middle class and i am a broke ass mother fucker

not all rich people flaunt there money not all rich people just magically got money sure some of my family kinda did but the rest got it through blood sweat and tears they worked there asses off before they got there inheritance most of my family live in a average house dont have a yaht or anything like that
my great grandpa did he had a big house a big pond in his backyard but it took him years and years to get that he started his own steel errection company buillt the old texas stadium half of the dfw lonestar park he built his way up through this company to get to where he was imo he deserverd and shouldnt have more money taking away from him bc he got off his ass
Now poor people we have a difficult time to get a job but we cant all get the benifits of wellfare medicade(i have skin cancer i cant hear possibly diabetic and have a few other medical issues and i still cant get it) i cant get food stamps nothing yet i have no where to live neither of us have a job when i applied but yet some douchebag guy with a new challenger with 24inch rims will walk in all decked out and have a lonestar card(which is food stamps) when im standing there bearly able to pay for gas now how fucked up is that
im in need and i cant get it and this douche bag isnt in need and gets help


and i really dont like the high tax of 40% i think it should be less its really not fair to pay the government 40% i think u should have to do something more productive with the money like donate 40% to breast cancer or skin cancer


thats what i think is wrong and i think its wrong for people to judge other classes til theyve been on all 3 lvls

[jmcslob]

@ MM
Like I said I don't like leaches rich or poor and it's fucked up you can't get the temporary help that you need cause some Douche bags are living off the money that should be used to help citizens such as yourself in times of hardship.

Nothing bugs me more than to see a dirty city full of wellfare collectors....
I say Fuck Volunteer work put those people to work doing cleanup etc...
We're paying them already might as well give em a job too.

and i don't give a rats ass about those people that say it's not right to put em to work doing the jobs nobody wants...99% of the people in this country are doing jobs they don't want and if they don't like it they can seek work elsewhere.

and to the people that are gonna say it's socialism I hope they realize it's better to get SOMETHING out of these people rather than nothing.

And I have no problem with people inheriting money, Land etc..

But I do have a problem with people inheriting Companies that were built on the backs of the employees that followed the original owners dream whilst they did whatever they wanted living a spoiled ass life.

[yogurt_21]

Originally Posted by jmcslob

@ MM
Like I said I don't like leaches rich or poor and it's fucked up you can't get the temporary help that you need cause some Douche bags are living off the money that should be used to help citizens such as yourself in times of hardship.

Nothing bugs me more than to see a dirty city full of wellfare collectors....
I say Fuck Volunteer work put those people to work doing cleanup etc...
We're paying them already might as well give em a job too.

and i don't give a rats ass about those people that say it's not right to put em to work doing the jobs nobody wants...99% of the people in this country are doing jobs they don't want and if they don't like it they can seek work elsewhere.

and to the people that are gonna say it's socialism I hope they realize it's better to get SOMETHING out of these people rather than nothing.

And I have no problem with people inheriting money, Land etc..

But I do have a problem with people inheriting Companies that were built on the backs of the employees that followed the original owners dream whilst they did whatever they wanted living a spoiled ass life.

I like that idea, it's not socialism then because it would simply eb the same as the govt providing jobs. In this case qualifications already exist just the same as they do when you get hired somwhere (although skills are less important here then just being broke) and we're actaully getting something back from it. We'd need to work out the logistics for diabled and sick but even for those in the hospital there are literally hours and hour throughout the day where they are stuck doing nothing. Give em a laptop and have them do csr or some other job where you don't need to be onsite.

[momentomoir]

I dont lets say my family started another fortune 500 business thats a family business and it becomes rich and profitable but we have people that arent in the family working at this place but we wanna make sure this business is passed down so things dont get changed

i think thats how it should be imo everyone should be allowed to inherit anything

[FordGT90Concept]

Originally Posted by yogurt_21

I like that idea, it's not socialism then because it would simply eb the same as the govt providing jobs.

Which is the very definition of socialism--government owns most of the jobs and currently, the government is the largest employer in the USA.


The problem with jobs is none other than the Democrats on the capital hill. All the entrepreneurs and business leaders look at the economy and say: "That shit ain't stable." There's an enormous federal debt and no one (even the "middle class" folk) are not confident in spending significant sums of money. Banks are the number one problem, still. Over 100 banks have failed this year and no banks are willing to establish new lines of credit to businesses willing to expand. Until that confidence is restored, this economy will not recover. More government jobs means more debt and more debt means an even more unstable economy as the dollar slips. Washington has already outpaced its limits and they did it in a careless and stupid way (making all the special interests happy)--that's why this recession is going to last a long ass time.

[jmcslob]

@MM
In cases like that the owner of the company should, as most do, decide which members of the family are worth having take over and give them shares in the Company and tbh any good business owner will have such things done before they die...

@Ford
So it's better to pay these people to do nothing?
Your probably thinking Just cut em off..

I'm sorry but to me that's just fucked up..
again rich or poor Leaches are Leaches and they need eliminated IMO it's either contribute or GTFO

[FordGT90Concept]

Unemployment is supposed to be only a temporary program to help familes as they find another job. If you're working 10 hour days on a road project, it's very difficult to apply for other jobs; moreover, most jobs these days are skilled labor--even road construction. Quite simply, there are no massive government projects these days that are suitable for unskilled labor that isn't already being done by prisioners.


If you're talking about Social Security fraud, the people on it legimately are incapable of working. No one drawing on Social Security is, by any measure, wealthy.

<social program> fraud has always been a problem. You got a better idea how to police it without making peoples' lives more miserable than they already are?

[yogurt_21]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Which is the very definition of socialism--government owns most of the jobs and currently, the government is the largest employer in the USA.


The problem with jobs is none other than the Democrats on the capital hill. All the entrepreneurs and business leaders look at the economy and say: "That shit ain't stable." There's an enormous federal debt and no one (even the "middle class" folk) are not confident in spending significant sums of money. Banks are the number one problem, still. Over 100 banks have failed this year and no banks are willing to establish new lines of credit to businesses willing to expand. Until that confidence is restored, this economy will not recover. More government jobs means more debt and more debt means an even more unstable economy as the dollar slips. Washington has already outpaced its limits and they did it in a careless and stupid way (making all the special interests happy)--that's why this recession is going to last a long ass time.

so your argument is that the welfare and disability we currently givfe away for free will be more expensive if we make them work for what they are given in whatever manner they can?

seriously?

[momentomoir]

they seriously stop giving away money to people that dont need

government:congratz for bring ur 6th child into this shit whole of alife bc u cant afford kids nor will you get off your lazy ass so we'll give u money
fat ass woman: thanks

gov. congratz on selling drugs i know u dont wanna make an honest living heres so money
drug dealer: yo dawg thax

thats how it works then you have people like me
barely making enough money cant feed theirselves while everyone and there dog is asking for money from u and having a few medical problems like skin cancer getting worse but no u tell this to the councilor do they help no

bc i dont have a kid and bc im white

[DrPepper]

Originally Posted by momentomoir

bc i dont have a kid and bc im white

Yeah I'm sure that's why.

[momentomoir]

Originally Posted by DrPepper

Yeah I'm sure that's why.

it is why else wouldnt u help out a homeless jobless person with skin cancer that can proove it ? why would u push some one like me aside who has no one else to go to


but some fat bitch that just has kids for welfare checks and some drug selling convict can get goverment help

[DrPepper]

Originally Posted by momentomoir

it is why else wouldnt u help out a homeless jobless person with skin cancer that can proove it ? why would u push some one like me aside who has no one else to go to


but some fat bitch that just has kids for welfare checks and some drug selling convict can get goverment help

The answer is you should sell drugs or have kids.

[momentomoir]

Originally Posted by DrPepper

The answer is you should sell drugs or have kids.

ya seems like it

but i would never ever bring a kid into a situation like mine

and my luck i would sell drugs and get caught

[FordGT90Concept]

Originally Posted by yogurt_21

so your argument is that the welfare and disability we currently givfe away for free will be more expensive if we make them work for what they are given in whatever manner they can?

seriously?

Can't answer that because, as far as I know, it has never been tried, namely, because of the very definition of "disability:" cannot work/unemployable.